Alldrupalthemes.com did a performance comparision between Joomla 1.5 & Drupal 6.1. As the author of the post infers, the numbers collected may not mean much to the user in the "real world" and limitations in the test results should be noted. Nevertheless, numbers that compare Drupal and Joomla performance are always interesting.
The conclusions drawn from the results are:
- Drupal is significantly faster than Joomla in all 4 setups
- Drupal cuts down pageload time by ~74% when caching is enabled on the fresh install and ~86% with the more populated setup
- Joomla cuts down pageload time by ~23% on the fresh install and ~20% on the more populated setup
These numbers are interesting and I bet the study pulls in a lot of visitors for All Drupal Themes. Not only are Drupal and Joomla users interested in these type of posts, but so are potential users shopping around the first time for a CMS. As always, you should judge a CMS by what it does for you and not what it does for others.
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Downhill for Joomla!
I don't use Drupal, but as a Joomla! user I'm disappointed. While Drupal is on the rise, Joomla! just seems to be building on its past successes. No wonder, Drupal is in the headlines, they won by Joomla! remaining in limbo in its post-Mambo days. JMO.
Steady is not downhill...
I'm curious as to what you think Joomla! is doing wrong? Joomla! is often ranked near the top in most CMS competitions. While Drupal is experiencing a lot of buzz for open source CMS, it doesn't diminish the fact that Joomla! is also a good CMS.
I think sometimes people mistake hype or lack of hype as the end-all judgement for a product/service. In a lot of ways, it's after the initial buzz for a CMS wears off that it really proves whether it is here to stay. Do you not think Joomla! has a bright future?
Constantly Imporving
Joomla! has done nothing to be dissapointed with. Look at the last release. There were some gigantic jumps in ability.
And, in trying to be objective... Joomla 1 was faster than Drupal 5 without caching and for logged in users out of the box. This is something Dries, the head and founder of drupal measured.
Does Joomla have room to grow? Sure does. It looks like performance and caching are 2 areas to focus in on. Does this mean that Joomla is going downhill. Not at all.
You forgot to mention that in
You forgot to mention that in that same test drupal was 319% faster with cache turned on.
I made up my mind, I choose Drupal
After using Wordpress for a while, I wanted to try something different for a new website I am working on. I wanted to start using a CMS but could not make up my mind on which one to use (Drupal or Joomla). After reading a few posts in here, I made up my mind.
I choose Drupal !!!
Thanks for all the good information.
Tinge of guilt
I always have mixed feelings when something I write or post persuades someone to choose one CMS over another. On one hand, I like the fact that I've written something that other find useful for their decision making process. On the other hand, I feel some obligation to be non-bias and not focus on push a particular CMS on someone.
Lately, my preference for Drupal and SharePoint seem to be persuading others away from Joomla! and Wordpress. Not sure if that is good or bad.
Despite my guilt, after you play with Drupal...please come back for a visit and let us know whether your choice of Drupal was the right decision for you or not. Inquiring minds want to know.
It is true
Nobody should choose the CMS they will live and work with from someone's opinion on a website. By all means try Drupal first, but if you can set up a few test sites with other systems to check for fit.
I really don't know what gave me the idea I could build a website at all after the systems I fought with while trying to make them into my idea of a CMS. It is a big decision based on a lot of factors, but a big one is choosing something you will enjoy working with from day to day.
I don't find you to be biased at all, Bryan, but I will be the first to admit I might not be the most reliable witness. :)
What, you bias?
Anti, I think you might be slightly biased. Afterall, it was you that convinced me to look more toward Drupal's direction than any other CMS out there. I think I was pushing e107, SMF, Wordpress, and osCommerce at the time! I thank you for your Drupal sermons.
From what I remember, when
From what I remember, when Dries Buytaert compared Drupal (v5?) and Joomla 1.0.x more than a year a go, Drupal was faster for guests. However, when a user logged in, Drupal had no caching, whereas Joomla performed a lot better than Drupal. So based on that, Joomla would be a lot faster for a site that has mainly registered users. The article doesn't mention anything in that respect. I don't know what the situation is today, but I'd love to see some stats.
Also, when a site called alldrupalthemes.com reports that Drupal is faster, I can't help but wonder if they're not a little bit biased ;-)
Drupal 6 performance
Actually, Drupal 6 now has caching for registered users. From the Drupal 6 release announcement:
I think you'll find that Drupal 6 has caught up and possibly even surpassed Joomla! in the area of performance.
I think AllDrupalThemes.com is trying to do their best to get real and honest numbers in their comparision between Joomla and Drupal. I wouldn't be so concerned about the site's bias with Drupal as I would be with their lack of experience with Joomla!. They may not be aware of "common" performance tweaks that can be made in the baseline version of Joomla!. This would be no different than some Joomla! users that may not be aware of the what can be toggled on/off in Drupal core to improve performance.
Performance
Whats funny is this place who makes a living on CMS reports has no real benchmark comparisons for anyone to view. All one see's within when trying to find real concrete informatioin is Mac .vs. PC, Joomla .vs. Drupal where apparently from my toying about e107 runs rings around both of them as it is properly engineered for the task of content management.
Joomla 1.5 has the developers sitting on their respective rumps instead of trying to get its performance tuned. Drupal wants to claim such wonderful performance yet in just plain ole' vanilla CMS work e107 runs rings around it as believe it or not does DotNetNuke which runs under compiled ASP.NET not interpreted PHP.
I mean duh.... why doesnt this site do REAL comparisons!
Joomla disapointed me
I'm not satisfied with the performance of Joomla. I have started to hate it ...
Agree!! The page loading time
Agree!!
The page loading time is too long with Joomla.
This is one of those Coke or
This is one of those Coke or Pepsi situations. It all comes down to what you feel comfortable working with and what you're building.
If speed was such an issue, we wouldn't be discussing Joomla or Drupal, because both are overinflated and slow. Moveable Type, eZ Publish, e107, these are the speed demons of the CMS world...but you may say, they don't have the [insert function here] I need. There in lies the rub. You have certain needs and the CMS must fulfill that need. Drupal users' specific needs are being met by Drupal. Joomla users' needs are being met by Joomla.
From a development standpoint, I use Joomla, if I want a standard blog or product catalog. The extension library is larger and more tailored to professional applications. It practically builds itself.
If I'm building a gallery or an organizational site, I use Drupal, for the flexibility. It takes a little longer to complete, but the end result has more possibilities.
No craftsman should limit his toolset.