Internet Explorer, Compatibility, and Security

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I found a great list on the blog/news section for the ocPortal CMS, 10 IE compatibility problems that you might not have realised. While the post is related to ocPortal, the Internet Explorer compatibility issues likely will apply to any CMS viewed by the browser.

Over the year's ocProducts has maintained a private list of issues in different web browsers, and if there's one thing that is consistent it is that Internet Explorer has the majority of the problems. Sometimes they are bugs, but as you'll see from this list sometimes other browsers just do things better. I am writing this blog post not to bash Microsoft, but hopefully to provide some useful information to other web developers. Thankfully IE8 fixed a ton of problems, and I can't wait until we can ditch IE6 and IE7, but unfortunately this will inevitably be years away; never-the-less, as far as I am aware every problem here applies to IE8 as well as older versions.

I wouldn't be surprised if IE8 fixes some of the incompatibility issues that the author lists. I've been using IE8 at both home and work and have found the browser to be an improvement over IE6 and IE7. Nevertheless, I still prefer Firefox over Internet Explorer.

Now, the following rant isn't directed toward ocPortal but something that has hit a sore spot with me.

Internet Explorer 8 Setup Experience

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IEBlog: "This post walks through the IE setup experience and the choices it offers users. There have been a bunch of web postings recently that have described aspects of IE setup and first run, not entirely accurately.  We hope this information clarifies some of your questions about upgrading to IE8 on Windows Vista or Windows XP machines.  (While the scenario where IE8 gets installed as part of Windows 7 is essentially the same, this post is focused on the upgrade scenarios that most users will encounter today.)"

Internet Explorer 8 Release Candidate

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Although Firefox is my choice for Internet browsers, I do use Microsoft's Internet Explorer from time to time.  Yesterday, I installed the release candidate of Internet Explorer 8.

I can't say I'm a big fan of their "Web slice" approach as it feels like I'm ramming Google Desktop via RSS feeds down the browser's favorites bar.  Who know though, perhaps the slice approach will grow on me.  However, I am a big fan of Microsoft creating a more compliant and less buggy browser and IE8 seems to fit the bill.  If IE7 was a good step in the right direction then IE8 gets Microsoft's users pretty close to the destination.

Meanwhile, my rant to all the IE6 users.  I can't believe that about a third of Microsoft Windows users are still using IE6.  Shame on you if you are still using that insecure, buggy, and non-compliant browser.  Microsoft doesn't even want you to use that browser...and yet you're still stuck in the stone ages.  I have a theory that IE6 is symbolic of the problems of complacency at Microsoft and those companies/users that are still on that browser.  IE8 arriving on a modern Windows desktop near you and you're still on IE6?  Give me a break!

Internet Explorer 8 is one step closer

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The Microsoft Internet Explorer team posted, IE8 Blocker Toolkit Available Today!

We believe IE8 helps make browsing the web faster, easier, safer and
more reliable. To help our users be more secure and up-to-date, we will
distribute IE8 via Automatic Update (AU) and the Windows Update (WU) and Microsoft Update
(MU) sites much like we did for IE7. We know that in a corporate
environment, the IT organization will often want to delay the
introduction of a new browser until they have tested compatibility with
internal applications and sites.  We’ve done a lot of work in IE8 to
maintain compatibility with sites designed for Internet Explorer 7, for
example compatibility view and the compatibility meta tag
However we know many IT organizations will still want to test the
browser before it is deployed.  To help prevent users from installing
IE8 through Automatic Update before compatibility testing has been
completed, we are providing the IE8 Blocker Toolkit.
This toolkit has no expiration date and can be configured either by
running the registry file on the client machines or via Group Policy in
domain joined environments. The Blocker Toolkit is available today from
the Microsoft Download Center.

IE8 will be available for users on the following platforms:

  • Windows Vista 32bit and 64bit,
  • Windows XP SP2 and above,
  • Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2003 SP2 and above

Let's hope not too many people use that IE8 Blocker Toolkit.

Internet Explorer 8 Group Policy

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The single reason enterprises with Windows networks prefer Internet Explorer over Firefox and other browsers: Group Policy.

For those of you who might be new to Group Policy, here is a quick background. Let’s first assume you use an Active Directory environment to administer the computers in your corporate network. If that is the case, Group Policy provides a wide set of policy settings to manage IE8 after you have deployed it to your users' computers. These settings are locked down and cannot be changed by users, as they are always written to a secure tree in the registry.

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Microsoft reverses IE8 compatibility decision

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On Monday, Microsoft announced from their IEBlog that they were reversing their decision for how Internet Explorer 8 would be compatible with Web pages designed for Internet Explorer 7 as well as Internet standards. You may recall that earlier this year Microsoft announced that Internet Explorer 8 in "Standards Mode" would actually be rendering pages in Internet Explorer 7's "Standards Mode". If you really wanted to have IE8 follow the latest standards then you would need to insert a special <meta> tag to your pages.

While developers and users expressed opinions on both sides of the issue, I think it would be fair to say a large number of people were not happy with this decision. In my own comments, I stated that "this is just plain crazy" of a move by Microsoft as it held onto ideas of the past and not the present. In a March 3, 2008 post, Microsoft's Interoperability Principles and IE8, the IE team explains what you can expect with IE8 compatibility based on their changed decision.

IE8 announcements lack substance

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Absolutely disappointing. Everyone is waiting to hear what the new features will be in the next version of Internet Explorer 8 will have...and still no information out in the open. Microsoft, knows it has a trust issue with its customers...yet they have yet to learn that trust is built on good communication. This is what Microsoft's IEBloggers have to say:

Of course, some people care about other aspects of IE8 much more
than they care about the name. As I’ve walked different people through
the plan, I’ve gotten “Does it have feature X?” “When is the beta?”
“When does it release” and even the more thoughtful “What are you
trying to accomplish with this release?”

You will hear a lot more from us soon on this blog and in
other places. In the meantime, please don’t mistake silence for
inaction.

Asa Dotzler, probably said it best, "What your silence for the last 18 months of IE 8 development tells the
Web developers of the world that you don't give a sh*t what they've got
to say about it." However, I like what commenter "Dave" had to say about the announcement of the next IE being IE8: